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Overview

Released

August 2003

Written by

Jonathan Morris

Runtime

126 minutes

Story Type

Christmas

Time Travel

Future

Location (Potential Spoilers!)

Puxatornee

Synopsis

Christmas Eve in the year 3060 and the planet Puxatornee is home to a prosperous human colony.

A space craft has arrived in orbit carrying the Slithergees, a race of obsequious alien slugs. Their home world has been destroyed and they are humbly requesting permission to settle on the first moon.

And if they don't get permission, then they are humbly threatening to declare all-out war.

The future hangs in the balance. The decision rests with Bailey, the colony's president — but she has other things on her mind...

Christmas Eve in the year 3090, and the planet Puxatornee has changed beyond all recognition.

The Doctor and Mel arrive, on a completely unrelated mission to defeat a race of terrible monsters, and soon discover that something rather confusing has been happening to history...

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I have heard bad things about this story, but the unusual format intrigues me, and I'm trying to go in with an open mind. Trying something different with this review - this is more of a liveblogging type thing, my thoughts as I listen. Skip to the end for an overview/summary. (2/5 - barely.)


White disc
Immediately, the story feels... Incoherent? I'm not sure how to describe it. It's like, a thing happens, and then another, and then another, and it doesn't give you any time to get used to it or contemplate events... It's just... Strange. The premise of the planet that was attacked by aliens who rendered the surface uninhabitable and the Doctor/his companion being assumed to be spies for this enemy alien force feels like it's trying to emulate "Creatures of Beauty". I doubt it will succeed.

I'm sorry, these humans are... Not holding grudges, and... Trying to bring about... Peace??? Humans??? If there's one thing we know about DWU humans, it's that they always want revenge. I just can't buy this. It feels beyond unrealistic.

Something about the oppressive regime effectively suppressing Christmas and then the last hope for peace and salvation being dressed up like a Christmas tree while one of the pacifist members sings a hymn... I wish I could take this at face value and assume it's going to be a story about the horrors of suppressing people's faith (and their hope), but bitter experience (and the warnings I've been given about this story) make me fear otherwise. Alarm bells are ringing.

It feels like the Doctor and Mel are just there to hear the drama.
Oh no, the time field is highly unstable! I'm so scared! /Sarc
Honestly, nice use of time travel. I wish Doctor Who did time nonsense like this more often, it's always so much fun! Shame it's ruined by this "this and then this and now this" nonsense style of writing.
Oop they ded
Why is the only woman in a position of power in this story (so far at least) a manipulative cheater.
EVERYONE GIVES IN TOO EASY. Humans are not really like this. Has this writer never met a human.
"The ends justify the means." And that's bingo!

Ah okay, here's the racism - yep, this is. This is not good. Basic respect towards immigrants framed as a bad thing, with the immigrants as evil invaders... Yeah, this is. Why was this story made. There's something about the blind aliens acting as helpless victims who can't do anything without the humans... This audio is awful.

Okay, this bit is actually quite good - the way Reed and Stewart are disgusted by their alternate selves' own actions, the way people become so different depending on the situation... I am a big fan of the idea of an adventure taking place during another adventure - that's very fun.

Mel's role seems to be just to ask questions (and accidentally give away information) - while this is a common role for companions, I can't help but feel like she should be Doing Something in the story. Ah well, maybe that'll change in black disc... Though, I don't have much hope given the story so far. The fact that the events in this story couldn't have happened if it weren't for the Doctor's arrival (because the TARDIS was necessary) is good, I like that - it's always annoying when the Doctor is just kind of. There. A bystander with no real role to play.


Black Disc
OH HELL NO. The immigrant aliens who are "taking over", who have their culture taught in schools... They don't celebrate Christmas (with an emphasis on "Christ"), and so they're ordering it cancelled. Read that again. This story has immigrant aliens who do not celebrate Christian holidays, and are oppressing the Christian - sorry, I mean human - population. My anti-Semitism bells are ringing. I feel disgusted. This is feeding into every stereotype and right-wing conspiracy about immigrants (and with the big noses on the cover, especially Jewish immigrants, although this could just as easily apply to any non-Christians). "Thanks to positive discrimination" all the humans are slaves... I need to lie down.

Okay, here comes the cool time travel/character stuff again. The original Reed and Stewart were going back in time to save Bailey, and this time, they're going back to kill her. It's gorgeous, it's perfect - if only it was happening in a story that wasn't so incredibly racist. This whole story is just "Christianity is dying. Because of Woke" and I want to scream. Why was this made. Why was this written. Why was this ever allowed. It is horrible to know that this came out of the same company who has done such wonderful audios as Creatures of Beauty and Jubilee. I just can't comprehend such variety in quality.

Ooh okay, another interesting concept being touched on - free will. "Pre-determinism is merely a philosophical abstract, and the physical reality of the universe is one in which all potential actions are permitted, including those whose effect is to cancel out their own logical cause". That line should be required reading for anyone trying to deal with paradox nonsense and fixed points. It's put very well.
Ah, finally, answers to questions raised by the white disc!
This is interesting - the whole time travel thing means that the Slithergee never commited that act of war, never assassinated Bailey... At least, in the original assassination attempt. Of course, the one thirty years later is quite a different story.

Wait, so, the Doctor knew to confess to being an enemy spy because he'd heard that he had before... grandfather paradox nonsense fr. Also, ngl I'm getting confused by all these different sets of Reed and Stewart/the Doctor and Mel. I've lost track of how each set know what!

"Why isn't there another Doctor and Mel here?" Ooh, are we finally getting an explanation? Nope, it's the same as the bit from the first disc. "Too dangerous, too risky, and far too confusing" oh, how ironic that to avoid confusion, you've made it more confusing!


It really does seem like there are just two versions of Mel and the Doctor running around now. It's not like they exist in alternate timelines - after all, the entire point of the ending (both of them) is that there is another set who might solve everything! And it's a key plot point - there have been times where we had both sets on the same version of Puxatornee at once! Very confusing. Am consulting canon-welding-current-spoilers in the big server for this one (will update if we figure it out).
EDIT: I FIGURED IT OUT I AM A LIVING LEGEND I'M THE SMARTEST PERSON ALIVE (see below)

War timeline = the one where they went to war, appeaser timeline = the one where they didn't. War!Dr+Mel arrive in the War!timeline, go back in time, create Appeaser!timeline where Appeaser!Dr+Mel arrive just as War!Dr+Mel come back (and quickly leave to make way for their new counterparts). Appeaser!Dr+Mel then go back in time and change history, creating the War timeline. They then return to the future in the new war timeline, just as War!Dr+Mel arrive, so they leave to make way for them. It's a paradox! It's a circle!!!! Even though multiple sets of Doctor+Mel shared timelines at the same time, they left in different timelines!


Summary
Well, uh, just as racist and awful as I was warned. Jeez. It did have a coherent plot that was easy to follow (most of the time, anyway), and the voices were clear and distinguishable. Fun use of time travel, and innovative story structure/presentation - shame it was wasted on such awfully hateful slop. I could give it anywhere from 1.5 to 2.5 stars and it would feel fair - if it wasn't for all the racism, it would be a good 4.5 or so, but the nonsense really tampers down the score. Giving it a hesitant 2/5, because I have to concede that it would have been a very inventive, interesting story if only listening to it didn't, you know, feel like being hate crimed.


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This review contains spoilers!

This is part of a series of reviews of Doctor Who in chronological timeline order.

Previous Story: Bang-Bang-a-Boom


I'm really conflicted on this one because I adore really timey-wimey narratives that play around with the format and this is a perfect example of a story like that. But it's also steeped in really awful unsubtle politics that go against everything Doctor Who is about. I'm not going to go into it though because I don't think I can do a good enough job to fully explain (other reviews have done it way better than I could anyway).

The timey-wimey gimmick is genius. The idea of a story in which both halves can be listened to either way is fantastic and such a simple idea that it's surprising it hadn't been done before in Doctor Who. There's lots of really fun parallels between both halves and hearing all the pieces fall into place is incredibly satisfying.

My 5/10 rating for this story might seem to imply that I find it mediocre but what it really is I think the time-travel stuff is 10/10 and the politics are downright awful so it averages to the middle. If you can ignore that kind of thing I'd definitely recommend this but otherwise I'd say avoid it.


Next Story: Delta and the Bannermen


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This review contains spoilers!

Ao pousarem no planeta “Puxatornee” o Doutor e a Mel se deparam com dois agentes “Stewart” e “Reeds”, ambos reconhecem os viajantes da TARDIS como espiões procurados, com isso sabemos que os personagens principais já estiveram ali antes e por algum motivo não se lembram disso. “Puxatornee” se encontra em uma situação terrível, radiação no ar, campos envenenados e leis márcias tronaram a vida do local insuportável - Tudo isso ocorreu porque em seu passado sua ex-presidente “Bailey” foi assassinada, esse ato gerou uma guerra contra uma espécie chamada “Slithergees” tendo os humanos como vitoriosos e como consequência seu planeta ficou nesse estado terrível. Sabendo de todo esse desenrolar, agora vem o ponto genial de “Flip-Flop” – Tendo conhecimento da TARDIS, os dois agentes pressionam o Doutor a levá-los ao passado no exato momento em que sua presidente foi morta para salvá-la e reescrever a história. Mesmo revertendo a situação, as coisas ainda se mantem ruins em “Puxatornee”, só que dessa vez com os “Slithergees” no domínio fazendo os humanos de escravos. A partir desse ponto nos deparamos com vários loops e vemos várias vezes os agentes tendo que voltar ao passado para tentar consertar as coisas. Em cima desse cenário o áudio entrega uma estrutura narrativa circular muito bem reproduzida, não deixando o ouvinte confuso e não tornando a sua experiência cheia de repetições chatas (pelo mesmo pra mim não foi chata, pode ser que você não goste kkkk). O lance genial de “Flip-Flop” é que cada CD desse áudio e representado por uma cor, o CD 1 é o Branco e o 2 o Preto – Como essa história é circular, gira entorno de um loop, você pode ouvir os CDs na ordem que QUISER, porque no final de cada um deles tudo se resulta em um paradoxo que o transforma na versão oposta do mundo que acontece no CD oposto, assim mantendo toda a sua história em um loop de tempo estável...GENIAL!

When they landed on the planet "Puxatornee", the Doctor and Mel found themselves facing two agents "Stewart" and "Reeds", who recognized the travelers from the TARDIS as wanted spies, letting us know that the main characters had been there before and for some reason did not remember it. "Puxatornee" was in a dreadful situation, with radiation in the air, poisoned fields, and severe Martian laws making life unbearable—All this happened because in its past, its former president "Bailey" was assassinated, an act that caused a war against a species called the "Slithergees", with humans emerging victorious and as a consequence, their planet ended up in this terrible state. Knowing all this backstory, now comes the brilliant point of "Flip-Flop" – Armed with knowledge of the TARDIS, the two agents pressure the Doctor to take them back in time to the exact moment their president was killed to save her and rewrite history. Even by reversing the situation, things still remain bad in "Puxatornee", but this time with the "Slithergees" in dominion making humans slaves. From that point on, we encounter multiple loops and see the agents going back to the past several times trying to fix things. Against this background, the audio delivers a very well reproduced circular narrative structure, it does not leave the listener confused and does not make the experience full of annoying repetitions (at least it was not boring for me, it might be for you haha). The brilliant twist of "Flip-Flop" is that each CD of this audio is represented by a color, CD 1 is White and CD 2 is Black—Since this story is circular, revolving around a loop, you can listen to the CDs in whichever ORDER YOU WANT, because at the end of each one, everything results in a paradox that turns it into the opposite version of the world that happens on the opposite CD, thus keeping the whole story in a stable time loop...GENIUS!

(Translation generated by AI, so mistakes are possible).


KnuppMello

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Defences from the evil aliens such as “you cannot understand the Slithergee ethic experience, we are being prejudiced against. It is a hate crime.” And portraying them as “heavily armed refugees” was not very Doctor Who in 2003 and certainly doesn’t stand up today. It belittles and undermines language crucial to defending people in racially hostile environments.


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I found the gimmick used here was done pretty well, but admittedly it’s been a while since I listen to this one. I recall thinking it’s alright mostly, there are some great bits and the gimmick used here was executed rather well, but overall I don’t remember too much of it to properly judge it.


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DOCTOR: Changing history isn’t like changing a light bulb.

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DOCTOR: Well, you might burn your hand or get electrocuted or fall off a step-ladder.

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