Stories Audio Drama Big Finish Main Range Main Range Episode 169 The Wrong Doctors 1 image Back to Story Reviews Add Review Edit Review Sort: Date (Newest First) Date (Oldest First) Likes (High-Low) Likes (Low-High) Rating (High-Low) Rating (Low-High) Word count (High-Low) Word count (Low-High) Username (A-Z) Username (Z-A) Spoilers First Spoilers Last 5 reviews 15 January 2025 · 587 words Review by KnuppMello Spoilers 1 This review contains spoilers! Um dos grandes trunfos da BIG FINISH é sua propensão em adicionar informações dando complementos as pontas soltas e brechas deixadas pela Série de TV, com isso conhecemos tanto novas aventuras com novos companions e vilões dando expansão a lore da obra. Diferente dos demais, “Terror Of The Vervoids” que se refere a parte 12 ou melhor dizendo o terceiro arco da Temporada “The Trial Of A Time Lords”, nos deparamos com o 6° Doctor já viajando com Melanie Bush (mais conhecida como Mel), aqui não é entregue uma situação introdutiva para sua personagem. Tomando conhecimento de The Wrong Doctors imaginei (assim como muitos) que o áudio tivesse esse papel de relatar esse espaço vazio, para minha tristeza infelizmente Mel ainda continua não tendo uma história introdutiva. Com intenções e conceito parecido com “The One Doctor” o escritor Matt Fitton nos apresenta dois 6° Doctors na mesma história - O de traje Azul refere-se a uma versão mais nova (do passado) que acabou de se despedir de Evelyn e está prestes a conhecer Mel, já o de traje Colorido é uma versão mais velha (do futuro) que atualmente viaja com a companion. Os dois acabam tendo o mesmo destino e cruzam seus caminhos, vendo Mel perceber que tudo está diferente que sua vida não era do jeito como está sendo relatado, conhecemos uma outra versão da Mel, porém mais jovem que ainda não tinha nem ideia que iria viajar na TARDIS. Sim...sei que está achando isso tudo muito confuso, mas não se preocupe, pelo menos a primeira metade da história tudo é relatado de uma forma leve usando até de momentos cômicos para não deixar o enredo maçante – O problema está em sua segunda metade, o áudio falha quando se torna uma espécie de montanha russa frenética remetendo até mesmos aos roteiros exagerados muito dinâmicos do New Who que particularmente não sou muito fã (dependendo do caso). Sem dizer que o áudio vai exigir de pausas em sua reprodução para retornar minutos antes para uma melhor compreensão de algumas situações, confesso que chegou a um certo ponto onde a experiência se tornou algo cansativo e incomodo de se acompanhar – Além disso os personagens secundários envolvidos na trama não me pegaram, suas histórias e todo o plano do vilão foi algo que não me convenceu tanto (ps: aquela coisa de Demon Lords que vivem no vórtex foi algo estranho). [⚠️ SPOILERS!!] No fim sabemos que toda aquela realidade vivida pela Mel mais jovem, era forjada e falsa, o Doctor reverte tudo tirando as memorias e anulando o evento da versão mais jovem da companion. poucos segundos do encerramento do áudio chegamos a conhecer como era vida de Mel antes da TARDIS, a casa onde mora, ouvimos sua mãe gritar com ela, mas o 6° Doctor de traje azul (mais novo, do passado) entende que está ainda não era a hora certa do encontro dos dois acontecer, ou seja, não temos uma cena introdutiva de Mel [⚠️ FIM DE SPOILERS]. Em resumo, se Matt Fitton mantivesse a dinâmica e a vibe da primeira metade de seu enredo, bem provável que minha experiencia teria sido mais satisfatória, o que me vem a pensar que talvez The Wrong Doctors é um caso para revisitar como mais cautela que no momento só me falta é vontade mesmo rsrs. KnuppMello View profile Like Liked 1 9 December 2024 · 232 words Review by thedefinitearticle63 Spoilers 1 This review contains spoilers! This is part of a series of reviews of Doctor Who in chronological timeline order. Previous Story: A Town Called Fortune I'm gonna need a flowchart. I'm like 70% sure I understand what actually happened here, I'm definitely not going to try and explain though. This is an absolutely bonkers story but it's great fun. It is quite hard to follow due to the fact there are two Doctors and two Mels active in the story, but they do a good enough job of explaining which is which everytime it comes up without taking you out of the story too much. I think this story is a bit too dedicated to the timey-wimey shenanigans regarding Mel to the point that it sort of forgets to have an interesting story. There's some sort of "time vampire" behind all this which just feels like a lazy way out. I do like the character development for 6 here, his sadness at Evelyn's departure at the beginning was quite nice and being forced to deal with his past self was a great way to highlight how much he's changed. Overall, I think it's a pretty good story but you have to give it 100% attention or you'll get lost very quickly. Next Story: Trial of the Valeyard thedefinitearticle63 View profile Like Liked 1 22 July 2024 · 97 words Review by Alex5679 1 A multi-doctor story focusing on how The Doctor met Mel. I was presently surprised by this audio. It's a fun and adventurous story. Having two Doctors here was great. We get the more brash and arrogant Six and the softer and mellowed-out Six. It's an excellent opportunity to see how much Six has grown. There's a little too much technobabble towards the end, but it's still an excellent audio. Mel and The Doctors are just so great here. This just might be one of my favorite Colin performances. I mean, good god, he's great here. 4 out of 5. Alex5679 View profile Like Liked 1 19 June 2024 · 1193 words Review by WhoPotterVian Spoilers This review contains spoilers! If there's one thing you can say about Big Finish's 2013 release The Wrong Doctors, it's that it's not afraid to have fun with time travel within the classic series period of Doctor Who. In the new series we are used to seeing the Doctor overlap with his present timeline but in the classic series (and indeed during the Russell T Davies era of the show) it was something you absolutely couldn't do. Having the sixth Doctor meet the sixth Doctor is therefore a very novel idea by Matt Fitton. But does he manage pull off the story's potential? Well, pretty much. There is a slight problem however in how it translates to the audio format. The Wrong Doctors takes place shortly after Trial of a Time Lord; the young sixth Doctor (Colin Baker) decides to drop the old Mel (Bonnie Langford) back home to wait for the old sixth Doctor who has already travelled with her to return. Meanwhile, the old-but-not-yet-old-enough-to-have-travelled-with-Mel Doctor (Colin Baker) arrives at Pease Pottage with the intention of picking up young Mel (Bonnie Langford) after losing his previous companion Evelyn Smythe. Both Doctors and both Mels are present in Pease Pottage at the same time and if the wrong Doctor were to meet the wrong Mel it could do considerable damage to the web of time. To add further complications, the village of Pease Pottage has been populated with people who have died years before...and some of them are even aware of their deaths, including Mrs Wilberforce (Patricia Leventon), who died in 1964 aged 80. The Wrong Doctors does a brilliant job of mixing new series concepts with the classic series; this is a story that you could easily imagine Steven Moffat writing. I particularly love the idea of a village populated by dead people. It is a very intriguing one and made disturbing by how the characters who are aware of their deaths act so matter-of-fact about it. And then there's the chilling concept that the residents of Pease Pottage can only remember a day's worth of memories but act as though they have always known one another. Jedediah Thurwell (James Joyce) for example clearly fancies young Mel but their memories mean that they can't remember meeting one another beyond the present time. Where the time travel falls apart is through the presence of both the young and old Doctors. Occasionally it is hard to follow which Doctor is with which Mel and it can feel like the story would have been better suited to the television format (especially when the old sixth Doctor is wearing his indigo coat - something that on television could have acted as a visual guide for the viewer). Some may require a flow chart when listening to this story; to his credit Matt Fitton tries to make the story easier to follow through nicknaming the two Mels 'Mel B and Mel C' but often it doesn't feel like enough. The two Mels barely interact anyway, aside from towards the end of the story where old Mel accidentally knocks her younger self cold.The old Doctor is also given the nickname of 'Indigo Jones' by old Mel (which is more useful than Mel B and Mel C) but I would have liked to have seen the young Doctor given a nickname too. Old Mel references Joseph and his Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat in the story so why couldn't she have called him 'Joseph'? None of the time travel confusion is either Colin Baker or Bonnie Langford's fault. Colin Baker and Bonnie Langford do a masterful job of making the young and old Doctors and Mels distinctive from one another. It's amazing how they manage to sound significantly younger when playing their younger selves, almost as though it actually is a younger Colin Baker and Bonnie Langford in the recording booth. Colin Baker's younger Doctor sounds much more bombastic compared to his older and wiser audio sixth Doctor. Bonnie Langford also manages to make younger Mel sound naive in comparison to her more experienced older Mel. This is Colin Baker and Bonnie Langford at their very best and I can't imagine there will ever be a sixth Doctor and Mel story where they both deliver a better performance than here. It's especially impressive how much chemistry Colin Baker has with himself. Colin Baker and Colin Baker effortlessly bounce off each other with their multi-Doctor banter, helping to signify how much the sixth Doctor has changed from his TV adventures to his later audio stories. Many times it feels as though there are two Colin Bakers, like Colin Baker isn't just one person but made up of Colin Baker splinters spread throughout time. Who knows: maybe he fell down his own timestream and Nicholas Briggs failed to mention in the behind the scenes extra that there were two Colin Bakers recording the story? Or maybe Colin Baker exchanges banter with himself behind closed doors? Admittedly that sounds much weirder than Colin Baker splinters. The supporting cast is also very strong, in particular Patricia Leventon as Wilberforce and James Joyce as Jedediah Thurwell. Both characters start off merely as caricatures - the sweet old lady and the confident young man of Pease Pottage - but their characters soon develop to become three-dimensional beings and are expertly brought to life by their actors. Both appear like characters from the sixth Doctor's era too; you could easily imagine Colin Baker's Doctor bumping into Wilberforce for example but I doubt she would have the amount of character development she gets here. The likelihood is that due to the poor quality of the writing she would have remained a caricature rather than becoming a layered supporting character. Wilberforce is a lady with a certain dedication to her: the kind of woman who will see things through to the end and who knows that one day everything must come to a stop. Jedediah on the other hand on the outside may appear confident but has a certain inner weakness that makes you question just how sure he is in the time-displaced society. At times it almost feels as though he subconsciously knows there's something not quite right. Overall, The Wrong Doctors is a clever idea by Matt Fitton but occasionally the audio format is detrimental to the story's potential. It feels like a story that would work better as a televised episode of the show rather than as an audio drama. It is remarkable however how Colin Baker and Bonnie Langford manage to sound significantly younger when playing their younger selves. Both give outstanding performances as both their younger and older selves; Colin Baker in particular has a lot of chemistry with himself. The supporting cast is strong too, my favourite being Patricia Leventon as Wilberforce. Wilberforce may seem like a caricature at first but she soon develops into a fully-fleshed character; her steely dedication makes her a very interesting character to listen to. The Wrong Doctors is definitely worth the listen for Colin Baker's rapport with himself but it's the kind of story that requires one of Doc Brown's blackboard sketches to fully understan d. WhoPotterVian View profile Like Liked 0 20 May 2024 · 306 words Review by sircarolyn Spoilers 2 This review contains spoilers! First of all, I'd like to say that Simon Robinson did an excellent job of the music and sound design for this episode. Personally, I found it all delightful and it enhanced an already fun story. And that is exactly how I would describe this story: fun. It's the kind of story that is best enjoyed with plenty of context as it is set chronologically at the beginning of the Doctor's travel's with Mel, and after the Doctor's Trial, and after Evelyn has left Six to marry Rossiter. Fortunately, I am in too deep with DW, so I was able to follow these threads with relative ease. That doesn't mean the story isn't twisting though. Langford and Baker do a sublime job at differentiating between the two Doctors and the two Mels (and I for one found the Mel A/Mel B Spice Girls jokes funny). We find ourselves here in Pease Pottage, a quaint country village which is caught in the middle of meddlesome time distortions. Mr Petherbridge is at the heart of it all, calling himself a demon who wants to cause chaos by erasing the Doctor from time and feeding on the way the universe would unravel around that. Petherbridge is one of many excellent minor characters in this episode. We see him as well as the various characters in time, Jed the Victorian, and Vaneesh, business consultant. I can see how one might find her corportate buzzword personality annoying, but it amused me very much. In fact, I found the whole episode's tonal frivolty to be deeply entertaining. Certainly one of the better MR episodes, and delightful if you enjoy Six, as I do, and you like your DW when it's a bit twisty and silly. sircarolyn View profile Like Liked 2