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Doctor Who S6 • Episode 8

Let’s Kill Hitler

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Review of Let’s Kill Hitler by dema1020

Given that Let's Kill Hitler is a pretty solid follow-up to A Good Man Goes to War and does it with such an audacious and provocative title, you'd think I'd like this episode or at least that it would be more memorable.  It's a real disappointment though.  I find the title and really the whole Third Reich winds up being a background detail to the much bigger focus on River and the funny robot piloted by shrunken down soldiers.  These things and the whole Hitler angle leads to a lot of fun jokes and good little moments, but the episode feels more like a delivery vessel for Moffat's writing more than a cohesive or coherent narrative.  It's alright - carried by its outstanding cast as all our main characters get to shine here and the little moments.  It's weird, for example, that a childhood friend of Amy's is actually River's previous body, but it could have been interesting.  I feel the consequences and effect this has on Amy is pretty minimal, though.  This episode is really just about the River and the Doctor, and though it is weighed down by all the weird stuff with the robot, it is neat how River is kind of the one off-foot in this story, and knows far less than the Doctor this time around.  It leads to a great shift in their relationship that helps define an episode that all-too often lacked direction.  So, yeah, just like A Good Man Goes to War, this had a lot of potential, but wasn't quite fully realized.

Review last edited on 8-10-24

Review of Let’s Kill Hitler by AndyUK

It was very good, I thought. There's definitely a lot crammed in these episodes, I can see that argument but it worked for me. There was a lot of interesting reveals, the robots were great and the throwback to the bribing the architect scene in Curse of the Fatal Death was very funny. Don't really see what the point of Mels or Hitler was but still, a good start to the second part of the series.

Review last edited on 23-09-24

Review of Let’s Kill Hitler by captainjackenoch

Really impressive to create something so bad that I nearly stopped watching this show altogether. I could not watch any more of 11's run after this.

I do find calling a fictional character, who is on the side of the heroes, a worse criminal than FUCKING HITLER, to be offensive and dumb. On top of that, if left alone in a room with Hitler, I would kill him with a hammer, I can tell you that much.

They don't even kill him. I'd give this episode a -50 if this site allowed me to.

Review last edited on 18-08-24

Review of Let’s Kill Hitler by WhoPotterVian

Let's Kill Hitler. Those three words are not necessarily what you would expect a Doctor Who episode to be called so it is a surprise they decided to call it that, although I suspect it was more to grab the attention of the media rather than a title picked because it suited the episode.

The title is very misleading and many quite rightly felt disappointed by it. Personally, I didn't; whilst I liked the idea of an episode set in the past with an evil dictator as the 'historical celebrity' it was never a necessity for me that this episode featured Hitler (Albert Welling) much. It is more focused on the origins of River Song (Alex Kingston) and the Teslecta's (various) attempt to take her down due to their knowledge of her killing the Doctor (Matt Smith). This in my view is a much more interesting story to tell than Mel (Nina Toussaint-White, later River) trying to kill Hitler even if at this point River Song is becoming more of an annoying character than one that's enjoyable to watch. She's a lot more bearable here than in other series six stories though and the episode overall is a lot of fun to watch. This is definitely on the lighter spectrum of Doctor Who episodes, especially when you have a scene where Rory (Arthur Darvill) shoves Hitler in a cupboard.

The best thing about this story is by far the set design. It looks perfect and probably one of the best recreations the show has had to a particular past period so far. You get a strong sense of world-building and character from the look of Hitler's office alone. You can tell the designers spent a lot of time designing the set of this one. Even the outdoor scenes look like the cast and crew have time travelled back to World War 2.

Albert Welling is very convincing as Hitler and it would have been great to have seen a lot more of him. Again, I thought the story focused on a more interesting point but it would have been fun to have seen the Doctor forced to team up with Hitler (or something along those lines). Alex Kingston is perfect as a newly-regenerated River too, although Nina Toussaint-White felt a bit flat at Mels. The main cast are great as always but Arthur Darvill in particular really shines here. He has brilliant comedic timing in this episode, especially near the beginning with Hitler. 'Shut up, Hitler' has to be my favourite line from the episode.

Overall, Let's Kill Hitler is a great episode that unfortunately suffers from a misleading title and an underused Albert Welling.

Review last edited on 21-06-24

Review of Let’s Kill Hitler by deltaandthebannermen

Let’s Kill Hitler is an infamous story. From it’s title to it’s main guest star, it’s an episode designed to make us sit up and pay attention – although not necessarily for the right reasons.

Moffat, like RTD, enjoys baiting the audience (and fandom in particular). Titles are a great way of doing this. RTD did it with The Doctor’s Daughter. Moffat did it with The Doctor’s Wife. Let’s Kill Hitler was the ‘mid-series’ kick off for the split Series 6. We’d ended on the ‘Avengers Assemble-esque’ A Good Man Goes to War and this story was going to begin to pick up some of the revelations about River Song’s true identity.

But how to get the audience back after the break. Put Hitler in the title! I know some fans have a bit of an issue with the title, in retrospect, as Hitler is such a tiny part of the episode and it could be argued that the story doesn’t deliver on the implied promise of such a sensationalist title. But the title isn’t telling us the story is about Hitler. It’s actually making it very clear (with the benefit of hindsight) that this is all about River Song. Although, to begin with, we don’t know that Mels is an earlier incarnation of River, ‘Let’s Kill Hitler’ is precisely the sort of sensationalist, naughty comment River would make as she gads about the universe. This is a River Song episode through and through.

Unfortunately, that’s sort of the least interesting thing about it. I don’t mind River Song, and it’s obvious Alex Kingston has a whale of a time playing her, but she’s a character I can take or leave and not one I’m ever clamouring for the return of. I wouldn’t say I was ever particularly invested in her arc, especially when it strayed away from the ‘time traveller’s wife’ conceit that she arrived with in Silence in the Library. It all just got a bit convoluted. Within an isolated episode, though, she’s a fun character who always reminds me a bit of a cross between Bernice Summerfield and Iris Wildthyme.

But, for me, River Song is easily the least interesting thing about the episode. The opening sequence with Rory and Amy careering around a cornfield in an attempt to get the Doctor’s attention is glorious and played well by Gillan and Darvill. My love of Arthur Darvill’s Rory is on record and he never disappoints. The arrival of Mels is the force of nature Moffat wants from the script and the flashbacks to the trio’s childhood – replete with unconvincing ‘adult pretending their teenagers’ scenes – are brilliant.

The best part of these though is easily the final shot of Mels tossing the model TARDIS across Amy’s bedroom and it morphing into the real TARDIS crashing towards 1930s Berlin. It is a marvellous shot and seamlessly executed.

Once in Berlin, we get some beautiful period work. The setting is realised well and as they emerge from Hitler’s office into the wider expanse of Berlin, although we don’t see a huge amount of it, it is convincing and well-realised.

Hitler, as we all know, is cursorily dealt with pretty early on. The conceit of them having saved Hitler’s life is well done in the script but not dwelt on too much before he’s punched by Rory and thrown in a cupboard. I think I’ve seen criticisms that this episode ignores the pure horror of Hitler and his effect on world history. As part of my teaching about World War Two with my class of Year 6, we look at propaganda and, in particular, at how Hitler was often portrayed in British propaganda – as a figure of mockery and fun. The famous Careless Talk Costs Lives posters depict Hitler in a variety of silly positions (on a London bus or sitting in a train’s luggage rack with Mussolini; disguised as a couple’s dog; hidden in beer pumps, pint glasses, wallpaper and with his head stuck through a painting). It is deliberately mocking him and make him ‘defeatable’. Let’s Kill Hitler is continuing in this tradition of mocking a hugely evil man. Your mileage may vary on whether this is appropriate now, in the 21st century, as the reason for doing in during World War Two is clearly not a necessary line to take any more but I can see how a writer, such as Moffat, may have, even subconsciously, absorbed that need to laugh at evil or adversity. In fact, he is on record as saying that laughing at Hitler is the right way to behave as it would aggrieve him far more than to still be feared and revered as a figure. It’s also true that, on occasion, the Doctor – particularly in Moffat’s time, enjoys mocking his enemies, such as when he is wheeling around in Davros’s chair in The Witch’s Familiar. It is also echoed later in Series 10’s Thin Ice when the Doctor punches Lord Sutcliffe. Overall, I do think it’s the right approach for this story. A story more centred on Hitler and the Third Reich would probably take a different tack, but that’s not what this story is about so I think it is pitched right.

Hitler is saved, by the TARDIS’s crash landing, from the Teselecta – a robotic human duplicate which actually houses miniaturised humanoids that are on a mission of justice to ‘punish’ criminals. Although the story doesn’t go into the background of the race inside the Teselecta, or even that much into their modus operandi or motivation, this re-watch had me loving the whole concept (and, of course, the Teselecta is actually key to the Series 6 finale so there is still some detail to come).

The crew are broadly painted but likeable (although it’s a shame the marvellous Ella Kennion – Boudicca in Big Finish’s The Wrath of the Iceni and the peerless Captain Sinker in CBeebies series, Swashbuckle – appears in little more than a cameo and disappears for the rest of the story, including when the Antibodies attack the crew). This time round I also loved the Antibodies. As a menace, I remember them underwhelming me originally, but this time found them both amusing and menacing. A Behind the Scenes feature on the DVD details how the Antibodies are physical remote-controlled props. I don’t know why, but this insight made me appreciate them even more. Their original concept was similar to how the Handbots turned out and was changed and, I think, it was the right decision as it brings them closer to their ‘real world’ inspiration.

One minor detail I had completely missed on previous watches was the identify of the Professor that River speaks to at the end of the story when she is enrolling at the Lunar University. It’s Professor Candy – a character who was included in Steven Moffat’s Continuity Errors short story (the foundation of A Christmas Carol and the general time-wimeyness of Moffat’s Who). He is also around in the Bernice Summerfield range and, indeed, features in the first NA novel Oh No It Isn’t where he becomes Dame Candy when Bernice is transported to a world of pantomime (go and listen to the Big Finish audio version or read the book – it’s glorious). It’s not important to the story but as a subtle tie in to the expanded universe of Doctor Who, one I really appreciate being included.

The core story of Mels/River and the revelation of Amy and Rory’s lost baby is, actually, of far less interest me. I never find I’m hugely engaged by the concept of River Song and don’t feel I ever really got a handle on the whole ‘brainwashed to kill the Doctor’ bit but then, because that is tied up in the very confusing Silence arc, I’m not surprised the finer details seem to have passed me by. It’s definitely something I need to look at in more detail (but not something that watching the series in the way I am is going to help with particularly).

This re-watch did find my enjoying the story a lot more than previously. I love the opening scene, the scenes of Amy, Rory and Mels’ childhood are great fun (and the model TARDIS to real TARDIS shot is simply gorgeous), the Berlin 1938 setting looks great and the whole Teselecta element is brilliant – and something that really deserved it’s own story rather than playing second fiddle to the River Song storyline.

I was a little hesistant going into this story as it’s one of my favourite eras and yet this story always seemed like a bit of an anomaly. In a way, it is, but it’s still got a lot going for it and is hugely engaging for its runtime.

Review last edited on 29-04-24

Review of Let’s Kill Hitler by 15thDoctor

Mels / Melody / River is a fascinating concept. Hilarious to build her into Amy and Rory’s lives. Very nice to see young Amelia again. I’ve missed her.

But the flirtation and one note portrayal of women in Moffat’s Doctor Who is just so tiresome. He is such a talented writer, why does he fall into the same avoidable trap with such regularity? And I’m a bit over Alex Kingston at this point, but that might be because of the characterisation. “I’m focusing on a dress size.” “I need to weigh myself.” Really? Matt Smith is so funny. The rest of the cast is a shimmering delight.

The Amy and Rory stuff is very sweet. The Tesselector is a sweet idea, Doctor Who’s answer to The Numbskulls - and beautifully pulled off. Forget Gangers - its Tesselectors now! Probably more Doctor Who-ish anyway. I like the little robots that act as its killer defence mechanism “please relax while we terminate your existence”.

For a second episode in a row there are tonnes and tonnes of great ideas in play, but a lack of focus. I’d rather have less ideas and a chance to flesh these out a bit. Putting Hitler in a minor comedy role is tasteless and doesn’t add enough to the plot to justify its inclusion, for example.

All the broad plot points are right. Moffat does a good job of not stringing River’s story out too long. We now have the basic shape that everything else fits into, and that feels like a good reward for all the time invested since Silence in the Library. This series he continues just about getting away with it.

Review last edited on 23-04-24


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